On this episode, we're feeling extra lovey dovey so we decided to check in about how quarantine is a very different experience for those of us who are boo'd up and those of us who are not. We also chat about some of our favorite romance films. Then, Issa Rae comes by to talk about her newest Netflix film, Lovebirds. And, of course, we get some tea about her thoughts on the response to this season of Insecure. And lastly, we end the show with some recommendations that'll make you feel good about your home and yourself. Follow us on Twitter: @SylviaObell @ScottieBeam @StrongBlackLead
[00:00:03] [Music In].
[00:00:03] Scottie Beam: You're listening to Okay, Now Listen. A bi-weekly show where we chat about what's on our minds, what we're bingeing and what's blowing up our timelines.
[00:00:10] Sylvia Obell: I'm Sylvia Obell. I'm a culture writer, host, producer and lover of Beyoncé.
[00:00:15] Scottie: And I'm Scottie Beam, a media personality, content creator, a music enthusiast and a wing connoisseur.
[00:00:22] Sylvia: Alright. So, Scottie, my girl. My ace. My boom.
[00:00:27] Scottie: Yes, boom. Yes.
[00:00:29] Sylvia: It's day 155 of this quarantine.
[00:00:32] Scottie: Yes it is.
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[00:00:32] Sylvia: We have been In The House like L.L. Cool J for two months [laughs] and counting. How are things going with you and your quarantine partner? I'm going to go ahead and ask the important questions and get right to it.
[00:00:46] Scottie: Everything's cool. We are still learning how to respect each other's space. I am right now at the point of this quarantine where I'm taking longer trips to Whole Foods. [laughter] You know, walking about --.
[00:01:02] Sylvia: [crosstalk] The long way home? [laughs]
[00:01:03] Scottie: [crosstalk] Through -- right. Taking the longest way home. Literally, Whole Foods is across the street from me. I walk around the block three times. And then go into Whole Foods. I just need a moment. You know, some air. Just some solitude for my mind. For my mind. Yeah. I don't know what people are thinking, though, during like, people who -- like people who are single thinking that people --.
[00:01:27] Sylvia: [crosstalk] I -- I --.
[00:01:27] Scottie: [crosstalk] Who are quarentined with of the people. I don't -- Yeah, Sylvia.
[00:01:30] Sylvia: [crosstalk] I can tell you.
[00:01:30] Scottie: [crosstalk] I don't know what this. Y'all are just --.
[00:01:33] Sylvia: [crosstalk] But here's the thing --
[00:01:33] Scottie: [crosstalk] Romanticizing everything.
[00:01:34] Sylvia: It's not about romanticizing it one hundred percent. I get -- I see what you're saying. And this is why I want to talk to you about it too. Because I feel like there's kind of like a de-escalation, right. I feel like if you were quarantined with your boo, and I feel like is something a lot of people can relate to. Like y'all probably started off like, yes, we're going to do this together! Kink kink kink kink. Making a little cute videos, doing a little Tik Toks together. It's all cute. Cooking for each other, playing house. You know, real cute. And then, you know, Month 2 hits and maybe I could see a de-escalation of that. You know what I mean? But here's the thing, for those of us who have been alone the whole time, there has been no de-escalation. There were just an abrupt stop to any kind of romance. Not just romance, physical touch. A kiss, a hand held. I'm not -- and that's not even talk about the lack of sex. I'm over here to tell you --.
[00:02:28] Scottie: Oh my god.
[00:02:28] Sylvia: I haven't even been touched. Like, I mean, even just somebody putting their hand over mine. [laughs] Touched in three months about. Like I have -- I don't even remember what a hug feels like. Like I -- [laughs]
[00:02:45] Scottie: [crosstalk] I'm saying, I'm saying, it's not like we're fucking like rabbits or anything. I don't know what people think that we're doing every single day. And I'd much rather not the de-escalation. You know what I'm saying? We had a moment. Like there was a time where we did everything, but we didn't know it was going to last this long. We didn't know [laughter] the stay at home order was going to be a bit, you know, we were gonna keep pushing it back.
[00:03:10] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Forever. [laughs]
[00:03:10] Scottie: Right. So, you know, yeah that dwindles, goes away. And then you just here.
[00:03:16] Sylvia: Here! Here!
[00:03:17] Scottie: [crosstalk] Every day. You breathe in, you're still here. Here! Here!
[00:03:22] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Here! Here! That's what you hear every time you go out to the living room and that nigga's on the couch. [laughs]
[00:03:26] Scottie: Literally. That's what I'm saying.
[00:03:31] Sylvia: I love being alone. I'm not here to act like I'm super sad about it. Like I think, I --you know, here's the thing, though and this is key. Like I'm very happy with my bubble bath sundays and like my day -- you know, my little dance parties by myself and only having to feed one person, especially. But I also under -- and I think that's a lot because I'm so thankful that I did the work to learn how to be alone and not lonely --
[00:03:56] Scottie: [crosstalk] Right. Yes!
[00:03:57] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Prior to this. I really feel for people who may not have really gotten to that step yet. Cuss I understand. Like, if you haven't overcome loneliness, which takes a long time -- like it took me most of my 20s to overcome loneliness. Like, I feel for y'all.
[00:04:10] Scottie: [crosstalk] But what do you do when you're lonely?
[00:04:12] Sylvia: I guess, you know, call, FaceTime friends and family and like, try to get the interaction where you can. I think that's a part of the reason why a lot of people are reaching back out to like exes. Like the new -- BuzzFeed and I think The New York Times did stories on how, like a lot of people are like, in the beg -- like the first month of this were like, you know what? In the face of a global pandemic disease that might kill us all, you pissing me off wasn't no -- maybe I, maybe it wasn't as bad I thought it was. Maybe I'd like, maybe I'm not going to do da, da, da, da, da.
[00:04:43] Scottie: I'm asking you the real questions. Sylvia.
[00:04:47] Sylvia: Hmm?
[00:04:47] Scottie: How many exes have text you during this quarantine?
[00:04:50] Sylvia: Whew. Well, you know, my inbox is a graveyard [laughs] of skeletons and ghosts reappearing into the inbox for sure. I def -- I am not the type of person, I don't really like to rewind. I kinda did that in my early 20s. Like I'm not really like in the mindset where like, oh, maybe I should take one of these boys back and I'm not like -- that's not the case. Like, I understand, you know, especially for the boyfriends who I was with for a long time checking in. This is a big thing that's happening. I'm in the epicenter. I appreciate you checking in, making sure I'm good. You know --.
[00:05:25] Scottie: [crosstalk] It doesn't go, it doesn't go further than that.
[00:05:28] Sylvia: Yeah. I mean, you know, like, sometimes people get flirty. But you just gotta, you know, swap that. You know, just gotta be like alright. Alright, talk to you later! But there are moments. And I get it. You're talking about romanticizing the other side --.
[00:05:40] Scottie: [crosstalk] You do.
[00:05:40] Sylvia: And there are moments where I wish, I wish that there was somebody who I could just cuddle up on the couch with to watch a movie with. Even the we're sitting in silence or -- and I get it. I probably would want them to go home after a while, too. But I'm just saying that I want you to appreciate that everything that y'all are not doing, even though y'all under the same roof, I have not done for longer. [laughs] And it hurts. Can we just get out that que -- like, I have not been kissed. [laughs] Well I -- will I be kissed in 2020? Who? [laughs] That's not a question you have to ask yourself. Like, I'm over here like, damn. Will I love again? [laughs] Like, I don't know, girl. I don't know!
[00:06:25] Scottie: [crosstalk] I guess.
[00:06:25] Sylvia: I think it's a blessing if people are in a home where there's different rooms where you can go apart and have your alone time. Do you have a strategy that you can share for the couples --.
[00:06:33] Scottie: [crosstalk] Oh. My. God.
[00:06:33] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Who maybe are struggling to try to figure out the balance right now? I feel like that's good advice that people could use.
[00:06:39] Scottie: If you just have a -- like the stuff I said earlier, if you have a moment to go to the store by yourself, go to the store, walk around the block about four times.
[00:06:48] Sylvia: [crosstalk] [singing] Take a walk --.
[00:06:49] Scottie: Right.
[00:06:50] Sylvia: [crosstalk] [singing] Around the park. [laughs]
[00:06:50] Scottie: Around the park. After dark. Before dark. Anytime. So that time then, you know, if you have any rooms. Like my closet. Sometimes I just close the door in my closet and just take a moment.
[00:07:03] Sylvia: She does. She's not lying. [laughs].
[00:07:05] Scottie: Because I don't want to be on Channel nine news. Like, I'm trying really hard. So that and then, you know, the bathroom. Sometimes I sit in the bathroom. I don't have nothing to do in there. I just sit in -- just sit in there and then take a moment, breathe, meditate and focus on the bigger picture.
[00:07:23] Sylvia: Yes.
[00:07:24] Scottie: Because you know, you love him. You would hate to do anything --
[00:07:30] Sylvia: [crosstalk] For him to die? [laughs].
[00:07:33] Scottie: Oh man. But all in all, with everything that's going on, we are a team. There's no one else I'd rather do this with than with my quarantine partner. So I will say, I'm grateful for having such a great person along with me doing this very crazy thing with me at this time.
[00:07:54] Sylvia: [singing] He fills me up.
[00:07:55] Scottie: Okay, see? See --
[00:07:55] Sylvia: [singing] He gives me love! [laughs] More love! [laughs].
[00:07:55] Scottie: Ugh. Gosh.
[00:08:06] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Than I ever need.
[00:08:07] Scottie: [crosstalk] I guess. I guess.
[00:08:07] Sylvia: He's literally all I've got in this world. And guess what? He's [singing] all the man that she needs.
[00:08:14] Scottie: Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Syliva for making this way more uncomfortable. [laughter] Appreciate you. Thank you.
[00:08:21] Sylvia: That's what I'm here for.
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[00:08:24] Sylvia: Anyway, speaking of romance --.
[00:08:26] Scottie: Or lack thereof, Jesus.
[00:08:29] Sylvia: This episode is a very special lovey dovey one. Later on, we'll be speaking with the one and only Issa Rae about her new Netflix film, Lovebirds. But before we do that, Scottie, let's talk about romance films. Do you love them or hate them? Do you got a top three?
[00:08:47] Scottie: I absolutely love them. Romance films are my favorite films, period, because I want my life to be like most of these movies that I watch. I love fairy tales. I love romance. I'm a big love fan. I love love for others.
[00:09:05] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Same.
[00:09:05] Scottie: So, yeah. I love watching it. What are my top three? Is my top three? The Notebook. Brown Sugar. And Pretty Woman.
[00:09:14] Sylvia: The Notebook is like such a classic standard.
[00:09:17] Scottie: [crosstalk] Well no because they -- nigga they died together. Like they died on the same day. Do you know what kind of love that -- that's --.
[00:09:23] Sylvia: [crosstalk] That's love --.
[00:09:25] Scottie: [crosstalk] Real shit.
[00:09:25] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Ride together, die together.
[00:09:25] Scottie: [crosstalk] And they had a discussion before. They was like, hey you want die? Like you wanna die tonight together? Like come with me. Let's die tonight. Fuck it. We out of here together. And so I thought that shit was fire. I love that. Then on top of that Pretty Woman. Woman from the streets, in the streets.
[00:09:41] Sylvia: [laughs] I feel like Pretty Woman --.
[00:09:41] Scottie: [crosstalk] Finds love.
[00:09:44] Sylvia: Is such an unrealistic movie! Hookers everywhere were probably like, let me get to this corner of Wilshire and wherever it was Hollywood that Richard Grear put -- picked up Julia.
[00:09:54] Scottie: Hello. It could happen. It could happen to you, sis. [laughter] So I'm saying,.
[00:10:00] Sylvia: [laughs] [inaudible].
[00:10:01] Scottie: Woman from the streets, she finally comes up -- on different ways too. Like she gets more money and she gets the love of her life? Oh, that's set. That's amazing. And then Brown Sugar, which was supposed to be my life. Everybody wants to be Sidney Shaw, of course.
[00:10:14] Sylvia: Everybody wants to be Sidney Shaw.
[00:10:14] Scottie: And I grew up loving hip hop. And me and her, you know, are the same in that way. So, yeah. I always wanted to fall in love with someone through music. I think that is the most poetic and romantic thing ever in life.
[00:10:31] Sylvia: [crosstalk] I love it. I love it so much.
[00:10:34] Scottie: So, yeah, those two. I mean, those three are my favorite. What about you, Sylvia?
[00:10:39] Sylvia: Well, Brown Sugar was on my list, but you said it. I think -- I mean, we're both women and black women in media who love music. So duh. I retweet you every time you say, like, sending me lyrics is like -- send me lyrics.
[00:10:51] Scottie: [crosstalk] That's it.
[00:10:51] Sylvia: Send me made a playlist that -- like a song that made you, that's it, like this is how you feel about me. I will eat that shit up. [laughs].
[00:10:58] Scottie: Yeah.
[00:10:58] Sylvia: Like --.
[00:11:00] Scottie: Sylvia, if they make us play -- you make me a playlist --
[00:11:03] Sylvia: Oh!
[00:11:04] Scottie: My panties are yours, [laughter] immediate! Immediately.
[00:11:09] Sylvia: The entire vagina is -- [laughs].
[00:11:12] Scottie: Is literally walking from my body onto your lap. Here you go.
[00:11:16] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's -- it's in your grasp.
[00:11:18] Scottie: [crosstalk] It's yours.
[00:11:18] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's in your grasp.
[00:11:19] Scottie: [crosstalk] Shit. It's not even in your grasp. It's yours. [laughter] You have it. It's in your pocket already.
[00:11:23] Sylvia: It's your in your pock -- [laughs]. I love --
[00:11:27] Scottie: It's in your pocket. So that's it.
[00:11:29] Sylvia: [crosstalk] There's a part of me that loves the alliteration, even though there's also the department of clutching my pearls. I love the stories where it's two best friends and people who were --had a friendship prior to and got together, which is also why my favorite, one of my top three is When Harry Met Sally, which is a very white rom com. But it is, I think, the base -- like it was definitely, like it was in the 80s. It's a Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal. Nora Ephron, who is the white bad bitch of the rom com drama rom com. All of that. She gave us When Harry Met Sally, she gave us Sleepless in Seattle. She gave us all the girls that like we -- she's kind of like the Terry McMillan for white people. I'ma put it like that for those of you who may not be familiar with her work.
[00:12:21] Scottie: [crosstalk] Don't -- first of all, don't -- Yeah. You throwing subliminals. You know, that was me. [laughter] I don't know who the hell Nora Ephron is.
[00:12:27] Sylvia: I know you don't know. But I also know that you represent a group of people who may also not know who who Nora Ephron is.
[00:12:33] Scottie: [crosstalk] Thank you.
[00:12:33] Sylvia: So I know it's not you. But When Harry Met Sally, I love it because it traces these like they're -- they meet in college when they're driving from their -- they graduated and they're driving from Chicago to New York. And it's like it keeps happening over years. Like I think it's a bit more realistic than Brown -- well won't call it more realistic than Brown Sugar but I like that it shows that, like, sometimes it takes -- it's all about the right timing with somebody. And then you can have a friendship with somebody and maybe you guys go through, you marry somebody else, you get divorced. You have other boyfriends and all the stuff. And then they like, you know, ending up together at the end it's still very sweet to me. I think there's a part of me that very much takes a while to trust people. And I love romance movies where it's like you knew who that man was or that woman was because you were just friends and weren't pretending to be other people with each other. I love like, you know what I mean, like that to me is like, so that you really know what you're getting into when you end up with somebody who's been your friend for that long. And I love movies like that. And also on that list is Love Jones. And I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. And that was not a cinematic masterpiece to some of y'all. They made their points clear when Love Jones was on Netflix and people who never saw it before with no nostalgia was like, this movie ain't that great. I don't care. I like it. And that's what matters. Okay?
[00:13:47] Scottie: I just hate that she threw away a whole notebook. That really pissed me off. At the end --.
[00:13:50] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Oh at the end? Well, she, I mean--.
[00:13:53] Scottie: [crosstalk] Really?
[00:13:53] Sylvia: She could -- the poems are in her heart. Okay, they're in her mind. [laughs]
[00:13:57] Scottie: Yeah, but that's, that's good paper right there, you just threw away.
[00:13:58] Sylvia: [crosstalk] That's good paper.
[00:13:58] Scottie: I was like, I love journals.
[00:14:01] Sylvia: [crosstalk] That's such a --.
[00:14:01] Scottie: [crosstalk] I wouldn't give that to anyone.
[00:14:02] Sylvia: But I love Love Jones. I love it because I just loved the chemistry between the Larenz and Nia Long. I love it that it was just all like Harlem Renaissance blacks talking about black poets and lit and like Isley Brothers CDS. And it was just very much it was very much my shit, vibe wise. And I thought it was shot beautifully. And I love it! I love it. I do.
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[00:14:27] Sylvia: Clearly, we can talk about romance movies all day. It is literally our favorite subject. We literally have spent so many nights in my living room watching romance films because we love them so much.
[00:14:40] Scottie: Right.
[00:14:40] Sylvia: And we could not wait to talk to Issa about her new Netflix film, Lovebirds. And some of her favorite romance movies.
[00:14:52] Scottie: We are -- Oh my gosh, this is a big day for me, for Sylvia to just be sitting here with one of the greatest examples of black excellence. I mean, the greatest example of black people are not a monolith. Like basically got her hands in every pot, every lane, made her own lane. Issa Rae, thank you so much for being here.
[00:15:15] Issa: Thank you.
[00:15:16] Scottie: [crosstalk] Thank you.
[00:15:16] Issa: Thank you, beautiful ladies for having me.
[00:15:19] Scottie: [crosstalk] Oh my gosh. I'm so happy.
[00:15:20] Issa: [crosstalk] Y'all are both amazing. So thank you. And I love, you Sylvia, rocking a Jemele Hill sweatshirt. That's also amazing.
[00:15:26] Sylvia: [laughs] Please let Jemele know.
[00:15:27] Issa: [crosstalk] Look at that!
[00:15:27] Sylvia: I was like -- I got the, Jemele gave me the unbothered hoodie. I was like, I'm over here with a whole different podcast on my chest. But black girls rock, you know what I mean? [laughter]
[00:15:36] Scottie: [crosstalk] So you can support it all. Support it all.
[00:15:39] Issa: Excellence inception. Yeah, I love it.
[00:15:41] Sylvia: [laughs] Let's get into this, because the main reason we are here to discuss -- to talk to you is to talk about your new movie coming on Netflix, Lovebirds. We were privileged enough to get a sneak peek at it. And we want to talk to you about your character -- start off talking to you about your character, Lalanly -- Leilani. What attracted you to this role?
[00:16:00] Issa: In reading the script, I found it so relatable. Just specifically about a couple that's at this specific point and, you know, gets put in this situation where they have to rely on one another. Like I think about, you know, relationships that I've had and relationships that I've wanted to get out of. And then being -- picturing myself in this situation where you're essentially framed for murder and have to rely on each other, that is just something that's comical about that. And then it just had this specific style in the original script where the couple would be arguing at the same time and talking over each other. Which I that -- there were like pages of dialog where they were talking at the same time. And I just, I hadn't seen that in the script before. And that cracked me up because there's a thing when you're, when you're arguing with a significant other and you just know what they're about to say before they can even say it. And you're listening, but not really. So those elements attracted me to it. I mean, and then seeing that Kumail was attached was like interesting to me. I would love -- I was excited to work with him.
[00:17:05] Scottie: Wow. What parts of Leilani did you resonate with? If there were any. And what were -- if you were challenged with any, too.
[00:17:12] Issa: Yeah. So they were originally written for white people and they were kind of generic characters. So nothing at first. And then we started crafting the characters to mirror some of our own experiences a bit more. And I could relate to her in feeling like our relationship was stagnant and wanting more excitement. And also comparing our relationship to others. Like those elements, I could see in a character or I could relate to that particular character. And that's what kind of -- we sought to to define those elements a bit more.
[00:17:53] Sylvia: Lovebirds is a rom com that takes a very different approach to romance than The Photograph did. It's much more comedy driven. Did you prefer one over the other? Or did you like working on both?
[00:18:04] Issa: I like both. I love comedy. Like you just have way more fun on set. And working with the scene partner, like Kumail. Like Kumail is like, ratatatatat. He just comes with the zingers -- [laughter. And he's so, you know, hard working and always wants to try something new. And that, like, you know, I never really had a scene partner like that before. And so he just kind of forces you to step your game up in a way that I love.
[00:18:31] Sylvia: I do feel like with Kumail, you know, Lakeith -- if I was to have to follow Lakeith as the romantic lead -- [laughs].
[00:18:37] Scottie: Child.
[00:18:37] Scottie: I'd be like, listen. I know I'm not going bring it all, but here I am. [laughs]
[00:18:43] Scottie: I'ma do my best.
[00:18:44] Scottie: That is a goodass point. Like Ku -- Lakeith definitely has it on that sense where he's just like, he looks at you and you're just like, Wait are we? Did -- they didn't say action yet. Okay, okay. Oh, okay. They did say action. I thought this was - okay, cool. [laughter] But it's -- it's yeah. I think it was -- the opportunity to work with just two dynamic leads in their own way is not lost on me.
[00:19:06] Scottie: Both movies take place in your favorite city, New Olreans.
[00:19:09] Sylvia: [crosstalk] New Orleans! I love New Orleans.
[00:19:11] Scottie: I was that a coincidence, Issa?
[00:19:12] Issa: A complete coincidence. For Lovebirds was just kind of like figuring out where we could shoot. And obviously Photograph had intention in New Orleans and New York. But yeah, for it for Lovebirds it was a complete coincidence. But I was so happy to shoot there because that's the best city ever for food, for tourism. It's just great.
[00:19:34] Sylvia: Yeah.
[00:19:34] Scottie: That's where me and Sylvia met.
[00:19:35] Issa: Yeah?
[00:19:36] Sylvia: [crosstalk] That's where our friendship started.
[00:19:37] Issa: [crosstalk] Wait, did y'all meet at Essence?
[00:19:38] Scottie: [crosstalk] Yes we did!
[00:19:39] Sylvia: [crosstalk] We definitely gave me the Essence Fest! I was telling Scottie, I was like I looked at our first picture on Instagram and it was upset that Insecure party.
[00:19:46] Scottie: [crosstalk] It was.
[00:19:46] Sylvia: And we've been good friends ever since. So you're really making black girl magic happen on various levels, Issa.
[00:19:52] Issa: [crosstalk] I love it!
[00:19:52] Scottie: Here it is.
[00:19:52] Sylvia: You really are. And then even like just the Insecure block party's you usually have pers -- for the seasons like --
[00:19:57] Issa: Will we ever be able to do it again? It's so sad cus we're going to do a block party this year. Like we had it perfectly timed. Just like, okay, when Episode 5, drops, we'll like drop the date for the block party right after the show. And then none of that -- none of that is happening.
[00:20:10] Scottie: The movie was supposed to come out in theaters, actually. But thanks to COVID, you know, it had to pivot to Netflix. How do you feel about it? And the impact that this pandemic is having on Hollywood period?
[00:20:21] Sylvia: Yeah.
[00:20:22] Issa: Well, I'm grateful as hell that it went to Netflix because it was going to be mad competetive. [laughter] Like who -- who was gonna go compete with, like Marvel movies and things like that. Everybody's trying to find a date. So I was geeked when they wanted it. Because it's a lotta, you know, a lot of people are like, hey, Netflix, what's up big head? Aha! We don't want to at first, but here go -- can we -- will you release our movie? And so we got in early, thank goodness. And I think it's going to change the industry for sure. I don't think anybody knows anything in terms of when we're gonna be able to shoot again, how we're gonna be able to shoot again. They just constant conversations. I know we're geared to shoot Season 5 in September, but who knows?
[00:21:02] Sylvia: Yeah.
[00:21:03] Scottie: Well, I liked it on Netflix. [laughter].
[00:21:04] Sylvia: [crosstalk] I think Netflix -- We like it on Netflix. Dada dun. [laughs].
[00:21:07] Scottie: Yeah from the comfort of my own -- oh yeah. True. I wasn't even thinking that but I was being -- for real.
[00:21:14] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Shout out to the sponsor.
[00:21:14] Scottie: [crosstalk] Plugging. Right. Jesus Christ.
[00:21:17] Sylvia: I just have to go ahead and acknowledge what's happening.
[00:21:18] Scottie: [crosstalk] I like to watch it from the comfort of my own home. [laughter]
[00:21:20] Issa: That of the real though. That's real.
[00:21:22] Scottie: Yeah. I can't sneak wine in every time I go to the theater. I can't sneak tequila in every time I go to the theater. I could just drink it and watch my movie.
[00:21:30] Issa: Tequila?
[00:21:32] Scottie: Tequila. Yes.
[00:21:33] Issa: Tequila. But like you don't fall asleep? That's, that's heavy. Tequila to watch a movie?
[00:21:38] Scottie: Tequila to watch a movie? Absolutely. Now, brown? I can't do, and do anything. I'll be gone to sleep after.
[00:21:45] Issa: [crosstalk] Tequilas --
[00:21:45] Scottie: [crosstalk] Like tequila is the upper. That's an up!
[00:21:48] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Tequila is the devil.
[00:21:49] Issa: [crosstalk] I have heard that it's an upper. It's just nasty. It tastes like gasoline.
[00:21:52] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's -- Ooo.
[00:21:52] Scottie: No. That's, that's vodka. That's vodka. That's crazy you say that.
[00:21:54] Issa: [crosstalk] Vodka is perfect. It has no flavor.
[00:21:57] Scottie: [crosstalk] Vodka! Vodka is what?! [laughter]
[00:21:58] Issa: Vodka has no flavor. That's the point. It's like --.
[00:22:01] Scottie: [crosstalk] Issa. Issa, please.
[00:22:01] Issa: It doesn't -- tequila literally tastes like Mexican gas. [laughter] That's what it tastes like. [laughter]
[00:22:10] Sylvia: But have you had like -- I know you've had that rich ass wealthy tequila that's in that blue and white bottle that has no bite to it. I know you have!
[00:22:17] Issa: I -- no. I don't fuck with tequila. Every tequila has bite to it. What are you talking about?
[00:22:22] Scottie: You bring it back, Sylvia. Please.
[00:22:24] Sylvia: I'ma bring it back to the rom coms, because rom coms are one of my favorite genres. And I do want to ask, like, are there -- is there anything you want people to take from this movie? I said, like, I definitely think this is the kind of movie you pull up to with your favorite cocktail. You know, you can enjoy it and laugh. It's really, you know, silly and fun. Like what are you hoping that people walk away feeling after it?
[00:22:45] Issa: I think exactly that. I think you go in, like, expecting to laugh and having a drink, going and watching it with your boo or roommate. But it's just, it's really supposed to meant -- make you feel like light hearted. And I think specifically during this time, if you want to escape and, you know, kind of visit the city without having to leave your home. This is a movie to watch.
[00:23:10] Sylvia: And because I'm such a big rom com fan, I do have to ask you, personally, because I need to know what your favorite rom com is. Like what are some of your favorite rom coms.
[00:23:21] Issa: I like, I like -- Sandra Bullock movies make me laugh. I do like, I must say, because I just watched it on a plane. I love Notting Hill. Like that movie --.
[00:23:32] Sylvia: [crosstalk] I love Notting Hill! With Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant, girl.
[00:23:37] Scottie: [crosstalk] Is this -
[00:23:37] Issa: [crosstalk] Yeah!
[00:23:38] Scottie: [crosstalk] Is this a white -- I don't know anything about it.
[00:23:41] Issa: [crosstalk] It's so white. And British.
[00:23:41] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's so white and British.
[00:23:43] Issa: [crosstalk] Like British humor.
[00:23:45] Scottie: [crosstalk] Damn.
[00:23:45] Issa: But I was like this shit is -- this is great. I love this. Like I could -- I could rewatch it. And then Coming to America is another -- like it has more com than rom. But it's --.
[00:23:55] Scottie: True.
[00:23:56] Issa: Like him and Lisa, you want them to end up together. And that is the perfect -- to me the perfect rom com.
[00:24:01] Sylvia: Only Eddie Murphy can make a rom com take place at McDonald's.
[00:24:07] Issa: [laughs] McDowell's.
[00:24:07] Sylvia: McDowell's. And make it a classic. [laughs]
[00:24:10] Issa: Yeah. It's, that's a -- that's a perfect movie right there. Except for that terrible African accent. But it's --.
[00:24:16] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It was very offensive. [laughs]
[00:24:18] Issa: What country was that?
[00:24:20] Sylvia: Nobody knows.
[00:24:21] Scottie: I want to talk about one thing and I know we're gonna go back probably in 2018, you release the Glamour cover, right? You were on a Glamour cover? Child. I don't buy magazines. I buy magazines like sometimes but that one seeing there spoke to me so loud. Like it resonated with me beyond measure. I don't even know that -- at that moment, I think I wanted to be on the cover. I've never thought about or dreamt about being on the cover of magazine until that moment Issa.
[00:24:49] Issa: That's amazing.
[00:24:49] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Oh -- that's beautiful.
[00:24:50] Scottie: It was -- just seeing that brown -- it's insanse. There was a sentence in there that resonated with me and you said that there is no blueprint to this, right, to your career. Right? For those who have recently stepped out onto untrodden path and have a hard time seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. What has been your greatest reward, either mentally or spiritually? Because we see what you get like physically, but we never see what you're winning with mentally and spiritually.
[00:25:20] Issa: Honestly, like comments like yours, you know, because you just don't think about that. Because you're so into it. But like, you know, people acknowledging the impact that it's had. Or saying, like, I could do that shit because your ass did. Like you did it. So I know that I can do it. Because that's it -- to the point of no blueprint of it --.
[00:25:41] Scottie: Right.
[00:25:41] Issa: I didn't know if it was possible. You know, and I was told that it wasn't. And that -- that gets to you because you feel like I'm on a fool's errand right now. Like, why am I trying so hard. So to see other people creating, if I had a small part in that and again, just as a genuine fan, like nothing makes me more excited than just seeing dope black shit. And if I had a part in inspiring that, then that feels good as fuck, you know.
[00:26:11] Scottie: Yeah. That's what matters. I, I love that. I have it on my mood board actually. It's one of my things that one day, hopefully I'll be able to do.
[00:26:19] Issa: You got it. You got your face, girl. You fine ass face. You got it.
[00:26:26] Scottie: Don't fine ass face -- [laughs] Issa, don't that. Stop.
[00:26:28] Sylvia: [laughs] She gonna add Issa Rae called me fine to her twitter bio tonight. [laughs]
[00:26:30] Scottie: Oh best believe! Tonight, bitch. What you mean tonight?
[00:26:37] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's already changed! [laughs]
[00:26:37] Issa: [crosstalk] Ridiculous.
[00:26:38] Scottie: [crosstalk] The interview is happening right now. [laughter] I already changed it. Thank you.
[00:26:44] Sylvia: Oh.
[00:26:44] Scottie: As Sylvia sighs. As I go to Twitter. [laughter].
[00:26:47] Sylvia: Let me, I'll get the next question while you go ahead and change that bio.
[00:26:50] Scottie: [crosstalk] Yeah go ahead. Go ahead --
[00:26:51] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Go ahead --
[00:26:52] Scottie: [crosstalk] Let me log in.
[00:26:52] Sylvia: [crosstalk] [inaudible] That's what sisterhood supported like. So.
[00:26:53] Scottie: Thank you.
[00:26:54] Sylvia: Back to you, Issa. [laughs] If I did -- I do feel like, you know, this podcast is also setting out to accomplish something similar in the -- for terms of, you know, create -- being unapologetically loud and black at the same time, you know, while giving representation to our thoughts, our feelings and all of these things that we are as black women while talking about what's happening in the zeitgeist. And I wanted to ask you about the challenges you face when you are trying to share and tell stories about us. I think it's something that those of us who are trying to create content are finally getting the agency to do that, are coming across, you know, people who may just not get it or don't under -- understand the importance of like. No, I said this is about black woman. Not just women. Or like, no, I get that I've said, that I keep only wanting to only have black guests on this show. But that's what it's gonna be. You know what I mean? Like, even we know the gift that nobody will let you forget, rooting for everybody black unapologetically on E News or whatever white broadcast you said it on, you know what I mean. Like, how do you you know, how do you -- face challenges like that anymore? Like or do people kind of accept that that's, you know, what they're going to get with you now.
[00:28:09] Issa: Yes, definitely more recently. And it's making me so scared because we talked to a lot of talk about change and this industry opening up in us, you know, being more behind the scenes. But, you know, the fact of the matter is there's still lots of people in positions of power who are just -- just still don't get it. And I think where black content initially was like enticing in this era, like maybe a couple of years ago when we first started. Like so much was getting greenlit because there was a novelty to it. Just like yeah, we haven't seen black faces and black women are killing it. But now I'm seeing that it's shifting again, where people are like, okay, we get it. Yeah. Black, black, black, black, black. Let's -- let's find the next thing. And it just makes me realize how much of a trend people see our existence as and that is frustrating. So it's -- I'm definitely facing it just even, you know, pitching new projects and pitching the projects of other writers about specific slices of black life that they don't deem worth an audience or worth a budget, in some cases. They -- I am seeing that, you know, despite the fact that there's so many platforms out there, there's still a risk in taking a chance on specific black stories because if you have one then you kind of have them all? And that's just -- that gets frustrating after a while. So we're still fighting the fight. And we'll see what happens. But this pandemic is not gonna help by any means.
[00:29:44] Scottie: Child.
[00:29:44] Sylvia: Before we close out, we have to get in at least one or two Insecure questions because the people will kill us if we don't.
[00:29:51] Issa: Okay.
[00:29:52] Sylvia: But -- [laughs] But I don't know if you saw Vulture's -- this week, Vulture staff writer Hunter Harris published a hilarious ranking of every man on Insecure this week. [laughs]
[00:30:02] Issa: Boy, did I.
[00:30:04] Sylvia: I wish I could see what the Insecure group chat looked like because our man Dro has been going off on Twitter ever since, [laughs] he's seen that a slave master ranked higher than him?
[00:30:16] Scottie: The slave master is nuts.
[00:30:17] Sylvia: But not only Dro, but you know, none of Issa's exes made the top 15 which was why -- like none of them. [laughs]
[00:30:25] Issa: [laughs] Yeah. So actually we were in the virtual writer's room and one of our writers just casually dropped like oh yeah, cause, you know, when they did the Insecure male ranking. And we were like, wait, what? Then she was like yeah, it just came out this morning. So I didn't know what to expect. So I saw the -- I was like, what the fuck is this? [laughter] What? They got it fucked up. And then I started reading it and I was like, [imitates spitting water]. [laughter] But they didn't have to do Dro like that. They did not have to do Sheronous like that, first of all.
[00:30:56] Scottie: Right.
[00:30:56] Issa: Come on. It cross --
[00:30:58] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Dead last. Dead last.
[00:30:59] Issa: That. But like he's not too tall. Come on. Come on.
[00:31:04] [laughs] They did. She came for his height.
[00:31:05] Sylvia: But I wanted to ask you if you had to pick your top three. Who would your top three be it if was a ranking of men in Insecure.
[00:31:14] Issa: I mean, Thug Yoda is not wrong at all. I would say Thug Yoda. I do think that Jared is a perfect man. Love Langston Kermen. And my third, my ideal -- oh. I mean, he was only in one episode. Does it count?
[00:31:30] Sylvia: For you. You can make the rules here. For sure.
[00:31:33] Issa: I woulda given him Luke James's character another chance.
[00:31:37] Scottie: Alright. [laughter]
[00:31:38] Issa: Sorry to disappoint you. [laughs]
[00:31:42] Scottie: [laughs] All out. And I know black Twitter is taking Issa and Molly's breakup as about as hard and --.
[00:31:48] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Yes the are.
[00:31:49] Scottie: Personally as we did Issa and Lawrence in, you know, Season 1. [laughter] Have you been surprised to see how much hate how -- I mean, Molly is getting this season?
[00:31:58] Issa: Yeah. [laughs] Sure, yes. You know, we were off for a year and a half. So I forgot like that people talk about the show. You know, and that they have feelings and there's a lot of discussion that happens and sometimes, you know, projection. And people are acting like Molly killed their mother.
[00:32:17] Scottie: Let me tell you something, Issa.
[00:32:18] Issa: Oh, so you're -- okay.
[00:32:20] Scottie: [crosstalk] Let me tell you something, Issa.
[00:32:20] Issa: I made a mistake. I made a mistake. [laughter] Tell me.
[00:32:23] Scottie: Issa --.
[00:32:23] Issa: Tell me right now.
[00:32:25] Scottie: She would have to run me my fade quickly. [laughter] Like when I say expeditiously, she would have to run me the fade.
[00:32:33] Issa: That's right. I forgot --.
[00:32:35] Scottie: [crosstalk] Like I --.
[00:32:35] Issa: [crosstalk] How could I forget your tweet?
[00:32:35] Sylvia: [crosstalk] At the block party. At the block party
[00:32:35] Issa: [crosstalk] You told me ask, ask questions later.
[00:32:40] Scottie: Oh, yes! Ooh! You remembered.
[00:32:41] Issa: That's right. Yeah. That was, that was you.
[00:32:43] Scottie: [crosstalk] Yeah. [claps] I tweeted you and I told you. Like --
[00:32:45] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Did you tweet her?!
[00:32:47] Issa: [crosstalk] Very violent.
[00:32:47] Scottie: Actually, yes. Throw the hands first and then ask questions later. You doing too much talking.
[00:32:51] Issa: Yeah.
[00:32:51] Scottie: And then, you know, we all would rode. Kelly, woulda road. We all would have been in there. [laughter] So yeah. That's what I'm saying. But what would Issa Rae would have done though?
[00:32:59] Sylvia: [crosstalk] At the block party?
[00:32:59] Issa: [crosstalk] Oh --.
[00:32:59] Scottie: [crosstalk] People with Issa D--.
[00:32:59] Issa: [inaudible].[laughter]
[00:32:59] Scottie: [crosstalk] Issa Rae, off [inaudible]. Issa Rae off [inaudible] --.
[00:33:07] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Say less! Say less sis!
[00:33:07] Scottie: [crosstalk] Tell me what she's doing to Molly! [claps] Please! Run -- just be honest.
[00:33:11] Issa: I don't play about my business. It honestly depends on what, what I brought to the table at --.
[00:33:14] Scottie: [crosstalk] Thank you.
[00:33:14] Issa: Depends on what I did too because I'm very sensible and I will always look at things like, okay, why is this person behaving this way? What do they think that I did? And then I determine my course of action. And if I determine that they are wrong --.
[00:33:32] Scottie: [crosstalk] To beat that as..
[00:33:32] Issa: Then they will be dealt with but --
[00:33:35] Scottie: You would have ran -- I told you. I told you, Sylvia. I said she would have run up --.
[00:33:39] Issa: [crosstalk] That's not. Did not say that.
[00:33:40] Scottie: Buck fifty town. [claps] We was in there. [laughter].
[00:33:42] Issa: [crosstalk] I did not -- no! I did not say buck fifty. What are you talking --
[00:33:45] Sylvia: [crosstalk] These are Scottie's --These are thoughts of Scottie Beam. A one, Issa Rae has not made these statements.
[00:33:49] Issa: [crosstalk] Newark, that is not --.
[00:33:49] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Newark, New Jersey is actingup in this house as usual. But no --.
[00:33:54] Scottie: [crosstalk] What?
[00:33:54] Sylvia: I do think we all were -- You know, I was very logical about it, till the block party hit. Where a lot of us feel a certain way about our business. I don't know if you expect it.
[00:34:01] Scottie: [crosstalk] I don't play about my job.
[00:34:04] Sylvia: Everybody just sided with Issa like that. But I would like, Issa, girl. The internet is behind you --.
[00:34:09] Issa: That's --.
[00:34:09] Sylvia: And this is hilarious to see.
[00:34:10] Issa: They're less behind me and more against, Molly. [laughter] That is clear.
[00:34:16] Scottie: Yeah, that's true.
[00:34:19] Sylvia: That's fair. That's fair. But before we end this interview, can you please share with us a moment of black joy that you have had this last month?
[00:34:29] Issa: This last month? Moment of black joy --.
[00:34:31] Sylvia: [crosstalk] In the house. [laughs]
[00:34:33] Issa: I mean, honestly, me and my family FaceTime every Sunday, or Zoom every Sunday. And it is a highlight. You know, like I get to see my nieces and nephews, or my niece and nephews. I get to see my family. We didn't -- we never talked every week. I never got to see my brothers every week. And so this past Sunday it was my siblings and my mom. And we were just reminiscing about stuff, clowning each other.
[00:34:58] Issa: And I was just like, oh! This, this almost almost makes the pandemic, like, worth it with the reconnection factor.
[00:35:07] Scottie: Mm hmm.
[00:35:09] Sylvia: That's sweet.
[00:35:09] Scottie: That's amazing.
[00:35:09] Issa: Yeah. It's sweet.
[00:35:09] Sylvia: [crosstalk] I was on also -- Yeah. It's real. I mean, I was -- I was on Zoome this weekend with my gran-- we got my grandmother in Nairobi on Zoom this weekend and --.
[00:35:18] Issa: [crosstalk] Aww.
[00:35:18] Sylvia: I don't think we know what we did because now phone calls will never be enough. [laughter] We did not think it through. We did not think it through on the back end. [laughs]
[00:35:27] Issa: [crosstalk] Oh good luck. Get them cousins. Ooh, girl. Check your bank account.
[00:35:33] Sylvia: [laughs] I was like listen, I'm over here creating background sopeople can't see what I got at my house. [clapping] Ooh, some nice curtains you got there, cous.
[00:35:39] Issa: But you can't come up off that,. Then I see them curtains and that TV -- cool
[00:35:41] [crosstalk] Right. I see -- I saw you got that Netflix podcast. [laughter].
[00:35:46] Issa: Thats real.
[00:35:47] Scottie: Hello.
[00:35:48] Sylvia: But this has been so much fun having you. Thank you.
[00:35:51] Scottie: [crosstalk] This is great.
[00:35:51] Issa: [crosstalk] Yeah, thank you guys.
[00:35:53] Scottie: [crosstalk] I had a great time.
[00:35:53] Issa: [crosstalk] Thank you for having me on. Likewise. I'm so glad you guys met at beautiful Essence. What a -- what a match made in heaven.
[00:36:01] Sylvia: Truly!
[00:36:01] Scottie: Full circle. Thank you so much for doing this with us, Issa. We really appreciate you.
[00:36:04] Issa: [crosstalk] Thank you guys. Take care.
[00:36:07] Scottie: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Go see Lovebirds on Netflix --.
[00:36:08] Issa: [crosstalk] See you next time.
[00:36:09] Scottie: Heh, heh. Bye.
[00:36:10] Issa: Bye.
[00:36:10] [Music In]
[00:36:14] Sylvia: You just got to love Issa. You really do. I love how that conversation was just like a shooting the shit with a homegirl.
[00:36:21] Scottie: Really. For -- with some like alcohol. Like it was a moment. It was beautiful. Now it's time for my favorite segment, Putting You On. Where we put you on to the things that we enjoy in hopes that you, too, will enjoy these things. Sylvia, what are you putting the listeners onto today?
[00:36:37] [Music Out]
[00:36:38] Sylvia: I'm here to put y'all on to my favorite candle of all time. The Goat of candles, if you will, inn my opinion.
[00:36:48] Scottie: Whew! The goat!
[00:36:49] Sylvia: [crosstalk] The goat! And I am -- and people who have followed me on Instagram for years and know that I take my candles seriously. I have a whole table dedicated to just candles. And LIT Brooklyn is --.
[00:37:02] Scottie: [crosstalk] Denequa!
[00:37:03] Sylvia: [crosstalk] That girl. Okay? It's-- [laughs]
[00:37:04] Scottie: [crosstalk] Hold up. Wait a minute. It's a chopper.
[00:37:07] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's a chopper.
[00:37:11] Scottie: Rat tat tat tat tat. It's a chopper. Yes. For real.
[00:37:14] Sylvia: [crosstalk] That's the energy that LIT Brooklyn is bringing into your living room and your bedrooms. I promise y'all you cannot -- you can just put a LIT Brooklyn candle in your room without even lighting it and it's already changing the atmosphere.
[00:37:28] Scottie: [crosstalk] Oh my god.
[00:37:28] Sylvia: It is potent. And it comes in such great flavors. And I know Scottie is a fan of this, too. So feel free to chime in. I love, I love blush. I love bo. And if we want to keep in the theme of romance, which is like why I'm trying tie in ths --.
[00:37:46] Scottie: [crosstalk] Muse.
[00:37:46] Sylvia: Candle thing. Oh, Muse's a great one as well. And like we said, Denequa, our girl, we would say this even if I did not like her. I hope I always like Denequa because at the end of day the -- [laughter] I'ma buy your canles anyway. Like [laughs] --
[00:38:01] Scottie: Fact. It's all love and shit but your candles are it for me.
[00:38:05] Sylvia: [crosstalk] I hope you'll still ship them.
[00:38:06] Scottie: [crosstalk] Even if we did beef, even if we did have a problem, sis --.
[00:38:10] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's like alright but about those candles.
[00:38:11] Scottie: [crosstalk] I'm buying your candles.
[00:38:13] Sylvia: So yes, I -- I highly recommend black owned business. We love that. We love to see it. And you have to really follow LIT Brooklyn's Instagram and Denequa's because I think that's the only way to catch them. Because when I tell you, these things will sell like hotcakes.
[00:38:29] Scottie: [crosstalk] Ten minutes. Ten minutes.
[00:38:30] Sylvia: [crosstalk] You have -- Start the clock.
[00:38:32] Scottie: [crosstalk] You have ten minutes, sweet heart.
[00:38:33] Sylvia: It's like think about like a Beyoncé concert ticket. That's the energy you got to bring to the LIT Brooklyn sale.
[00:38:39] Scottie: [crosstalk] That's a fact.
[00:38:40] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Cus it's not a game.
[00:38:41] Scottie: [crosstalk] That is a fact.
[00:38:41] Sylvia: [crosstalk] They're not playing to with you.
[00:38:42] Scottie: She'll give you a heads up the day before though. Won't she?
[00:38:44] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Yes. That's why I feel it's best to folow her --
[00:38:45] Scottie: [crosstalk] She'll tell you like, hey, we're releasing tomorrow at 12 p.m. So just make sure you have your alerts going. Make sure that, you know, at 12 o'clock, you need to be on that site with already two in the cart to get ready [laughter] cause, listen --.
[00:38:57] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's not a game.
[00:38:58] Scottie: [crosstalk] It's no game. They do not play.
[00:39:00] Sylvia: [crosstalk] And this is a worldwide thing. I even real -- I was like damn. Like it's real out here. And we're her friends. She still won't even help us out on the side. She be like, well guys guess you're going to catch the next relaunch. So it's fair.
[00:39:12] Scottie: [crosstalk] Dead ass. Dead ass. In the group chat --
[00:39:13] Sylvia: [crosstalk] That's how she be in the group chat --. [laughs]
[00:39:14] Scottie: [crosstalk] In the group chat she dead ass be laughing at us like, damn sucks for you. Catch me on the next one though. That's a real entrepreneur. She like, bitch I ain't giving no candles away. Y'all my friends and shit, but m-mm. Catch me on the next launch.
[00:39:27] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's a business, so that is LIT Brooklyn. I'm going to say the -- the website. It's litbklyn.co. That's where you can find them. She's also LIT Brooklyn on Instagram. And get you some. And get get the vibes going because we're in the house. So it's time for us to make that house feel like a place we want to be. Smell like a place we want to be getting. It's getting stuffy. Get you some candles. That's my recommendation. For today. How about you, Scottie? What you putting the people onto.
[00:39:58] Scottie: Guys, I want you to still love me after I tell you what I want.
[00:40:03] Sylvia: Oh god.
[00:40:04] Scottie: To put you on to. I want you still to respect me. I want you to know that I want the best for you.
[00:40:12] Sylvia: [crosstalk] The drama.
[00:40:12] Scottie: And you only. Okay. I want to put you on to Insanity. Shout out to Shaun T. I only know about it when I was younger, when I was watching my aunts do it and shit.
[00:40:24] Sylvia: [crosstalk] It's a throw back.
[00:40:25] Scottie: [crosstalk] And you know, everybody used to be -- yeah, back when Tae Bo was a thing.
[00:40:28] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Oh, Tae Bo!
[00:40:29] Scottie: [crosstalk] Shaun T was also a thing. Npedow I step on the scale, right -- [laughter]. Let me tell you all something.
[00:40:36] Sylvia: This is a triggering conversation for a lot of us.
[00:40:38] Scottie: That scale looked back at me like bitch, you really got to be kidding me. You seriously sat on this cale --you thought you was gonna get a number you, you liked? On this scale? [laughter] If you don't take your bounce ass. So I said, okay. I have to do something, but I can't run because my knee is out of here. Can't, can't do that. The gyms are closed. So my only best bet is to do --.
[00:41:03] Sylvia: [crosstalk] At home workout.
[00:41:03] Scottie: Insanity. At first I hated it. It was horrible. I'm now on my second week. I feel a bit better. Just the fact that I'm active is helping me out a lot. So it's not even that I want to put you on to being -- To Shaun T and Insanity. I want to -- you to actually get active and do something. Just one thing for yourself.
[00:41:24] Sylvia: [crosstalk] Why you so loud? [laughs]
[00:41:24] Scottie: Whether it be -- no, no, no. Just for -- It helps you. It helps you mentally. It'll clear a lot of you know, doubt and a lot of things going on in your mind mentally. I think it will help you out. So if you could just do one active thing a day.
[00:41:42] Sylvia: Why? We don't want to! [laughs]
[00:41:44] Scottie: [crosstalk] One thing. It's -- it's just.
[00:41:48] Sylvia: You're right.
[00:41:48] Sylvia: Do one thing. I'm not saying run. I'm not saying-- maybe a walk, a jog, whatever you can take at this moment, just do. And that's it.
[00:41:57] Sylvia: I like it.
[00:41:57] Scottie: I hope, you know, it's just, healthier mindset.
[00:42:02] Sylvia: True. We love to hear it.
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[00:42:05] Scottie: No, you don't. You don't wanna hear any of that. [laughs].
[00:42:10] Sylvia: [crosstalk] [laughs] [inaudible]
[00:42:10] Scottie: [crosstalk] I didn't want to hear it. I was --.
[00:42:12] Scottie: [crosstalk] I put on the best straight face I could! [laughs]
[00:42:21] Sylvia: That's our show. A very special thanks to Issa Rae for taking the time to chat with us today. And thank you, listeners, for tuning in once again.
[00:42:31] Scottie: Our show is a production of Pineapple Street Studios in partnership with Netflix and Strong Black Lead. Shout out to our team. Executive producers are Agerenesh Ashagre and Jasmyn Lawson. Our Lead producer is Jess Jupiter. And our Music is by Amanda Jones. Special thanks to Max Linsky and Jenna Weiss-Berman.
[00:42:50] Sylvia: Make sure you share your thoughts with us on the episode using the #okaynowlisten. Follow Strong Black Lead on the socials @Strong Black Lead and follow us too I'm @sylviaobell.
[00:43:03] Scottie: And I'm @scottiebeam.
[00:43:04] Sylvia: Until next time folks, stay blessed.
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